The TC grip I was referring to was the 'initial' that had the deep Reduce where your hand Internet rests, it gave quite a bite. The two TC's I have now are definitely the afterwards (greater 'humpback' type) grips that handle recoil significantly better, not a dilemma in the 30-thirty, 35 Rem. and 375 Earn. barrels I have.To evaluate the pistols’